13 August 2009
Good news for the 1401 railfans.
1 - In September, CP will do four charter trains from Porto to Régua hauled
by 1401 locos. It`s similar to the almond train, and includes train, lunch
and culture activities in a farm. These activities are related with the
wine.
The dates are 19/20 and 26/27 September. The train leaves Campanha at 8.40
and Régua 18.30. The train is not officially published, and perhaps some PTG
member want to take pictures to the train.
2 – In the weekend 22/23 August are the very popular religious parties in
the Viana do Castelo. CP will put some doble diesel units in regional
trains, but Sunday 23 two regional trains will circulate with locos + 6
coches, if the Douro can not dismiss UTD 600.
10th December
As part of the planning for the PTG tour in
January, had a visit around Barreiro works today.
In workshops;
Complete, final tests after overhauls (12/08);
1943, 1963
Overhaul underway;
1557 almost complete, fully painted, final fitting out
1552 stripping almost complete, body work to start
1904 stripping almost complete, in wash area (loco was Campolide
Thunderbird)
1962 just arrived, awaiting space in stripping/cleaning bay
Unscheduled repairs;
1913 Complete, released after collision repairs;
1935 Bogie repairs
For Argentina/Private;
1210 complete, fully painted for Somafel Portugal
1211 complete, except final painting
1214 complete, except final painting and bogies
1216 complete, fully painted
1436 fully stripped, awaiting body work repairs, engine ready to be
reinstalled
Daily Maintenance Shed (minor repairs)
1449 (Takarga)
1562, 1564, 1912
0366
Stabled pending entry in workshop;
1426 for Argentina
1446 for repairs, awaiting authorisation
1161, 1164, 1170 parked in various locations, none appeared to be in use.
Stored
Inside dismantling shed, all fully stripped;
1155, 1174, 1203, 1213, 1459, 1460, 1524
1416 with collision damage, bent frame at long nose end - stripped and for
scrap
Outside dismantling shed;
1404 and 1434; both fully stripped for overhauls which were suspended,
nothing but basic frames.
1906 and 1910; on stands without bogies
1225 stored for museum
On depot;
1458 (collision damage), 1505/1510, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941
Other bits of news;
Overhauls on 1400 suspended, not known if any more will be authorised.
Thought 1404 and 1434 for scrap, 1416 definately so.
More work on 1551s, 1901s, 1931s and 1961s expected in 2009/10.
1805 is at Entroncamento EMEF Maintenance section; battery issues under
repair
Diesel services now using new platforms until saturday with electric
services starting from Sunday.
4x 2300/2400s to be used vice 0600s - 2x 0600s due to move to Algarve, 5x to
Porto.
Barreiro old station now disused, only one line remains connected and used
for stabling 0600s, til saturday.
Barreiro new 'station' is three platforms with a portakabin serving as
booking office whilst other works on-going.
AD. (with assistance from Graham Garnell and David Gourlay)
15th September - from AD
Well - some confirmed, some heard of today, but unconfirmed... First,
confirmed... 1449 failed at Bombel this morning on a Poceirão-Evora training
run. Was dragged back to Poceirão by CP's 1428 and thence onto Barreiro for
repairs. 1445 is at Barreiro too, apparently for minor repairs and then is
booked a series of Barreiro-Pinhal Novo and Evora training trips next
week.Fots here! Along with several others of today's eventful
trip.http://158722.fotopic.net/p53505824.htmlhttp://158722.fotopic.net/p53506307.html
The 1344 Evora-LOR IC failed to start before departure, nice shiny
overhauled 1946 was guilty, so service was replaced by a bus. 1945 worked
the 1410 from Oriente and dragged its mate and 5 coaches back on the 1844
ex-Evora in a bizarre formation. 1945 arrived at Evora, ran round its own
stock, then backed on to the front of 1946 and its stock resulting in the
formation being 1945, 2 Budds, 1946 and 3 Budds...! Arrival was 35min late
because of Convel
problems.http://158722.fotopic.net/p53505819.htmlhttp://158722.fotopic.net/p53505825.html
Comsa's 335001 is at Poceirão, due to be dragged to Casa Branca at 0845 on
Monday and will do a series of tests on the Evora branch on Monday and
Tuesday before returning to Spain on
wednesday.http://158722.fotopic.net/p53505822.html
The Evora and Estremoz trip from Poceirão has changed, now departing at 1130
on sunday and wednesday, returning the same day. 1912 appears to be under
overhaul at Barreiro for Carga, being replaced as the Campolide Thunderbird
by 1904. The latter also appeared, last monday, at Oeiras (yes....Oeiras!)
dragging a 3151/3251 unit after repairs at Campolide, a task previously
performed by top and tail Sentinels to Cais de Sodre, but now prohibited.
1464, now a Somafel loco in their livery, is at Entron, but as far is is
known (and here we move into the unconfirmed section...) the loco is not
fitted with Convel or radio-solo, so should be restricted to working within
possesions and will not be allowed out on the mainline. Note implication of
this new rule...! It is not known what the intended use for 1464 is and
whether it will be fitted with the neccessary bits to let it out on the
mainline as per Takarga's 1445/49. Now the bad news, if true... CP have
instructed EMEF to stop work on the 3 1400s currently under repair (possibly
just intermediate overhauls) at Barreiro, namely 1404, 1416 and 1434, with
no more overhauls on the class to be undertaken. The overhauls currently
underway on Bombardiers 1971 (accident damage repairs as well) and 1973,
will be the last with CP investing in the 1901s and 1931s instead, with the
possibility of new engines being fitted to the class (maybe GMs). An odd
decision, given the Almost's rather dubious reliability (see above...!) and
seemingly higher maintenance costs compared with the rather simpler and
rugged 1961s. Saying that, Bombardier reliability has not been wonderful of
late, with 3 at Barreiro (the above plus 1963) and 3 others OOU at Contumil.
The MLWs also do not seem to have a rosy future with only sufficient bits to
keep 18 locos in traffic at any one time and again, future overhauls now in
doubt.
Oh, and 1805 now at EMEF Entron for painting in blue and white... Cue paint
frothing...
Interpreted from article in newspaper here.
A deal to sell more stock and locos to Argentina is to be signed before the
end of the year with stock to be delivered between March and September 2009.
From the stock noted as being included, this is simply the approval of the
original plan of 2006, the balance of which was never exported - supposedly
due to lack of payments. This batch should in theory be;
1211, 1214, 1216, 1426, 1432, 1436, 1438 and 1941
2004, 2008, 2018, 2053, 2058, 2074, 2086 and for parts only, 2055, 2068,
2084.
8 Budd Sorefame coaches.
A further deal is on the table involving another batch of 50 or 100 coaches,
which would imply the grand majority of the remaining non-air con Budd stock
being exported. No mention of any further loco sales, i.e. 1800s.
24th April from Steve Widdowson
On Wednesday 23-4-08
Loule 2562 + 1562 plus 3 hoppers heading north- Passing Albuferia
(1540)while another 15xx was noted at Boliquelme with hoppers heading
for Loule.
On Wednesday 16-4-08
25xx + 14xx was noted passing Albuferia (1540) heading north
Other notes
16-4-08
5605 1320 Lisboa O/ Faro
1562 in Loule yard shunting
18-4-08
2514 hoppers > loule ( Passing Albuferia (1620)
21-4-08
1905 hoppers >loule ( Passing Albuferia (1530)
23-04-08
2608 1308 Faro/Lisboa O
5602 1020 Lisboa O/Faro
19th April - from AD
4701 has been joined by 4702 at Poceirão, both were moving around the
yard this afternoon.1456, 2514 and 1902 were the only other occupants.
There appear to be a couple of regular freights up from the Algarve on a
saturday afternoon; The rather colourful 5615 on containershttp://158722.fotopic.net/p49823706.html
And a nice combination of 3 MLWs on the Loule working!
http://158722.fotopic.net/p49823705.html
18th March
The first Siemens 4700 loco has been delivered to CP.
A photo CP4701 at Entroncamento taken today (18/3/08) is available at the
following link:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=227915&nseq=7
5th March from AD
A trip over to Praias de Sado and Poceirão yesterday, with
Messrs Garnell and Morais found the following;
Praias de Sado; 1428, 1903, 1905, 5613 and 1569 arriving on containers
Pocerião; 1165 (fresh off overhaul, no rods, in transit), 1411, 1456, 1566,
1908, 2505, 2514
5613, 5618 and 5620 all went north of freights
1559 arrived with trip from Setubal
1566 left with 1908 and 1411 in tow to P Sado
ex-Renfe 308 and an Alco in the Ferrovias yard, no sign of Takarga 1400s
1454 stored alongside the station
This, along with other notes from B exam, would suggest a 1400 swap around;
Poceirão; 1411, 1428, 1456
Lisboa SA IC sector; 1427, 1442, 1457
Entron Carga; 1415, 1429
Contumil; 1412 (back from overhaul), 1416, 1465 and possibly 1466 (after
overhaul)
We are fairly sure that it was 2505 parked up at Poceirão depot - it had
been in store at Entroncamento.
Also:
More 1400 reallocations could be on the cards while browsing
the Paraferroviario & Coimboios.org Forums.
1424 is at Barreiro (arrived Sat 9th March) for a R2 overhaul and quotes on
the forums state when released it should be replacing 1413 in the CP-LCR
pool at Contumil.
The Takarga locos are also located at Barreiro being overhauled with 1464
possibly moved from Figueira da Foz for Takarga?
Various photos of both 1462 & 1465 working off Pampilhosa have appeared on
the Paraferroviario Forum. So has 1462 moved north to Contumil, or is there
diagram now taking Entron locos to Pampilhosa?
11th March - from Mark Widdison
Just Returned from a weekend in Portugal covering the
Lusitania diversion: gen as follows:
Saturday 8/3/08:
2604 worked the Lusi forward from Vilar Formoso to Entroncamento where 1940
was added as pilot with the 26 dead in tow!
1415 (Contumil??) was pilot at Santa Apolonia Docks, where as 1429 had been
earlier in the week according to Andrew Donnelly.
5611 has moved from the freight sector to the passenger sector. It worked
IC523 0930 Lisboa Santa Apolonia-Porto Campanha on Saturday 8/3/08.
(Reported out during the previous few days). Photos soon to be available at
markwiddison372.fotopic.net
5609 may have moved over to the passenger sector as well, A almost entirely
covered in grafitti 5600 was on IC528 1652 Porto Campanha-Lisboa Santa
Apolonia on Saturday 8/3/08. Numbers obscured by the grafitti! Entroncamento
allocated 1416 & 1465 were both stabled on Pampilhosa with 1408 & 1444 on
Sunday 9/3/08.
1422 on the Almond Special on the Saturday for a change!
24th January - from Mario
Since January 1, a 'new' rule is in effect. Now all trains
being shunted are required to have the brake pipes connected between loco
and consist. This has led to CP sidelining of their typical Sentinel
Shunters. So if one goes to Santa Apolonia - Lisbon's central 'Halt' - the
shunters on duty will be Mooses 1427, 1442 or 1457. The 'rule' in this new
procedure is based on Security rule book 3, and its some 20 years old.
15th January
Apparently 1805 started first time! and no faults were found.
Looks like the loco will now take part in the opening of the new National
Railway Museum at Entroncamento in March. Possibly on a special train! More
news as we have it...
14th January 2008
BIG NEWS : Locomotive 1805 has entered Barreiro works
today. It is to receive a minor service and be started up and a report on
its condition to be made to CP Board. We are trying to find out more !
Also it appears that between 4 and 6 of the other 1800 series
locomotives are to be overhauled and sold to Argentina. Most likely ones are
1802/07/10 plus possible 1803/08 very unlikely are 1801/04/06.
19th November from AD
Status of ex-CP 1400s in Argentina.
TBA
1409 out of traffic Liniers works, under repair with crankshaft damage
1467 out of traffic Liniers works, appears not to be being worked on and
some parts removed
1205 prepared for traffic, not seen in use. Stopped at Liniers.
1217 in traffic, usually Merlo-Lobos. Engine compartment bonnet blew off
(strong wind!) on 7th Nov, replaced along with damaged side doors taken off
1223.
1212 not seen
1218 in traffic, Retiro Mitre pilot
1221 in traffic, usually Merlo-Lobos
1223 out of traffic, not prepared, some parts missing, including engine room
doors as noted above!
LSM
1417 in traffic
1418 in traffic
1440 in traffic
The use of these locos appears to be a little bit sporadic with the first
diagram (1550 ex Retiro) more often than not being caped, seen only twice in
last 3 weeks. the second working of the diagram works more often, starting
with the 1734 departure. The second turn (1616 ex Retiro) is more regular
but twice last week it produced an Alco RSD16 vice the 1400! B823 and B826
each with load 4 was lively...! Stock used is exclusively Argentinian, the
CP Budd stock is not used with several stopped at Retiro and several moved
to TBA for Merlo-Lobos. 1417 especially, clags like I've never seen a 1400
do in Portugal, black smoke a plenty!
FerroCentral
1410 in traffic
1423 arrived Cordoba mid-October, prepared for traffic and repaint into
FerroCentral livery complete by end of month. Stabled Cordoba station 2/3
Nov, not seen in use, still immaculate condition.
1448 out of traffic, some parts removed (coupling hook, horns amongst other
bits) but staff quoted as saying will be repaired as nothing major wrong.
None of the Nohabs were seen, but one was in Cordoba being used to
promote the reintroduction of pasenger services.
On the boat...
1201, 1207, 1224
1405, 1421, 1425
1931, 1934, both overhauled, 1933, 1936, which have not been overhauled.
0101, 0105, 0106
2057, 2064, 2072, 2082 (and possibly 2018)
and 7 Sorefame coaches
7th November from AD
Most of the next batch of exports for Argentina are
being/have been loaded
at Setubal.
Included are 1201, 1207, 1224 plus maybe another 2 unknowns, 1421 and two
others, presumably 1405 and 1425, 3 more Nohabs and at least 2 more EMUs.
http://picasaweb.google.com/zeencarnacao/EMBARQUERUMOARGENTINA/photo#s5129553167350461650
As for here, 1417 and 1440 on the Hurlinghams!
3rd November
1410 worked a PTG special from Cordoba to Villa Maria in
Argentina. This British built loco has now worked PTG specials in THREE
different countries! (Portugal, Spain and Argentina).
16th October
Pics from recent PTG trip can be seen
here
http://jandjcottrell.fotopic.net/c1389858.html
12th October
Thanks to Mark Widdison for clarify the sightings at
Entroncamento:
Entroncamento Works:
2501/2506 (ex2503) were having bogie overhauls/repairs
2567 undergoing collision damage repairs
5604 bogie overhaul.
5626 repairs
2611 repairs & Multi working fitment
2626 full overhaul & multi working fitment
5630 full overhaul.
Stored around the works were:
1946/2506/2508/2513/2515/2559/2569 in varying condition.
2558 awaiting entry for fire damage repairs
5617 awaiting entry for overhaul (last one needing a overhaul!)
The website mentions 2504 & 2505 stored at the works. 2504 was not
seen at all (active?), 2505 noted at Santarem Sand loading Sidings
on a freight on Thursday 4th while en-route to Entroncamento Works.
It was then stabled at the northwest end of Entroncamento station
with 2570 on the Saturday night and all day Sun.
2511 was not seen in the works at all, possibly scrapped (Had
collision damage) as it was stored with 2561 & 2565 when last seen a
couple of years ago.
11th October
10 years late, the extension of the Metro from Baixa Chiado to Terreiro
de Paço and Santa Apalonia is due to open on December 22nd (2007, just in
case of any doubts...) Announcement this week from the Minister responsible.
Also, a date for the re-opening of Rossio is expected soon - expected to be
in early 2008.
8th October
During the PTG tour we had visits to both Entroncamento and
Barreiro works. Class by class news follows but the biggest news is that CP
have again started to overhaul 1400 locomotives; for their own use. Other
big news is that all work on locos for export to Argentina is suspended
(waiting payment!). All diesel locations are Barreiro except where stated.
All electric locos at Entroncamento.
1151 series
1152 stripped ready for overhaul. Works shunter 1170. Stored 1161. Stipped
for parts 1155, 1174
Stored at Entroncamento: 1151/53/58/79
On overhaul at Entroncamento: 1154
1201 series
Overhauled and ready for shipping to Argentina: 1201/07/24
Overhauled started but suspended for Argentina: 1211/14/16
Stripped shells: 1203/13
Stored: 1225
On maintenance (private owner): 1204 (being re-gauged for use in UK!)
1401 series
On overhaul for CP Carga: 1412, 1466
Overhauled and ready for shipping to Argentina:1405/21/25
Stored for future Argentina shipment: 1426/36
Crash damaged: 1458
Stripped shells: 1459/60
Active (traction motor swap): 1456
This obviously means that 1466 has not been repainted grey
and sold to a private company. That loco is now believed to be 1449 with
1445 to follow.
1501 series
Stored for national museum collect: 1501
Stripped: 1505/24
On maintenance (private owner): 1512
1551 series
On full overhaul for CP Carga: 1553
Intermediate overhaul for CP Carga: 1555
Maintenance: 1562
1801 series
Covered storage for CP Musuem: 1805
1901 series
On full overhaul for CP Carga: 1901, 1909
Intermediate overhaul for CP Carga: 1905
Dumped out of use: 1906, 1910
Maintenance: 1907, 1911
Can see why CP Carga have a loco shortage with 7 of the 13
locos out of use!
1931 series
Overhauled and ready for shipping to Argentina:1931/34
Stored for future Argentina shipment: 1933/36/41
Stored for CP: 1937, 1938 (fire damage), 1939
Stored at Entroncamento: 1946
1961 series
On full overhaul for CP Carga: 1964
Collision repairs: 1971
2501 series
Intermediate overhaul: 2506/11
Other works: 2501
Stored: 2506 (shell), 2504/05/08/13/15
2551 series
Collision damage (to be repaired): 2551/58/67
Withdrawn: 2559/69
2601/21 Series
Overhaul for CP Carga: 2626
Other: 2606
5601 series
Overhaul for CP: 5617, 5630
8th October
Another successful PTG "Enthusiast Event" with all locos and
lines producing:
5th October
1962 Oriente - Setil - Coruche - Ermidas-Sado - Tunes - Faro
(389.5 km, 242 miles)
1962 Faro - Tunes - Funcheira - Setubal - Oriente (321.3 km, 199.7
miles)
6th October
2568/60 Oriente - Entroncamento (99.8 km, 62 miles)
1558 Entroncamento - Marvao-Beira (132.6 km, 82.4 miles)
1558 Marvao-Beira - Entroncamento (132.6 km, 82.4 miles)
2560/68 Entroncamento - Oriente (99.8 km, 62 miles)
7th October
1908 Oriente - Entroncamento (99.8 km, 62 miles)
1411 Entroncamento - Pego (50.6 km, 31.5 miles)
1567 Pego - Mouriscas-A (6.7 km, 4.2 miles)
1411 Mouriscas-A - Rodao Paper Mill Branch (51.2 km, 31.8 miles)
1567 Rodao Paper Mill Branch - Entroncamento (95.2 km, 59.1 miles)
1908 Entroncamento - Oriente (99.8 km, 62 miles)
7th October
Douro valley workings today
1422 0848 Regua-Campanha, 1715 Campanha-Pocinho
1455 0915 S.Bento-Pocinho, 1531 Pocinho-S.Bento
1st October
The printed tour guide for this week's "Annual Enthusiast
Events" is available as a PDF Click Here
29th September
Timings for next week's "Annual Enthusiast Events" are:
Friday 5th October (1961)
| Lisboa Oriente |
|
09.24 |
| Coruche |
10.22 |
10.32 |
| Alcacer do Sal |
12.21 |
12.31 |
| Funcheira |
13.30 |
13.40 |
| Messines Alta |
14.51 |
15.01 |
| Faro |
16.08 |
|
| |
|
17.37 |
| Tunes |
18.08 |
18.23 |
| Setubal |
21.21 |
21.31 |
| Lisboa Oriente |
22.23 |
|
Saturday 6th October (2551, 1551, 2551)
| Lisboa Oriente |
|
09.07 |
| Entroncamento |
10.20 |
11.05 |
| Torre das Vargens |
12.15 |
12.25 |
| Vale do Peso |
12.47 |
12.57 |
| Marvao-Beira |
13.29 |
|
| |
|
16.28 |
| Castelo de Vide |
16.43 |
16.53 |
| Entroncamento |
18.40 |
19.09 |
| Lisboa Oriente |
20.15 |
|
Sunday 7th October (1901, 1401+1551, 1901)
| Lisboa Oriente |
|
09.00 |
| Entroncamento |
10.09 |
10.44 |
| Mouriscas A (Pego) |
11.30 |
12.52 |
| Belver |
13.06 |
13.16 |
| Rodao |
13.48 |
|
| |
|
18.00 |
| Entroncamento |
19.32 |
20.02 |
| Lisboa Oriente |
21.19 |
|
18th September - from AD
5601 to 5610 except 5609 are Passenger locos. 5609 has been very badly
grafittied for several months, completely 'done' over one entire side.
Increasing problem here.
5600s have 8 turns for 9 locos covering all Porto and Faro turns. Was
expecting up to 5614 to go to passenger, presumably will happen when/if
Beira Alta turns get accelerated to 190kmh, requiring another 2 probably 3
5600s. They will be a bit wasted on the Beira Alta but would make sense to
have a common pool of 14 5600s to cover all IC hauled turns, inc Sud and
Lucy.
Not sure if mentioned this before, but the order for 15 class 4700s has
been extended to 25, so all the 2500s and 2551s should be withdrawn 2008/09.
Interesting where this leaves the 2600s.
17th September
Sadly no loco hauled service trains on the Douro last
weekend. However a very-rare 1400 on the boat special! Workings were:
14/09/2007 9004 Regua-Vila Real, Vila Real -
Regua on a PTG special
15/09/2007 1444 on 18.08 Pinhao to Porto SB on a private charter
for DouroAzul and BarcaDouro
17/09/2007 1455 & 1413 on 17.48 Pinhao to Porto SB on another
private boat charter
7th September - report from Martin Summerscales
In Porto Friday to Thursday last and managed some time on the trains.
Saturday 01/09 Red Bull Air Race along the river through the city. All
suburban trains 2 units all crammed to capacity most of the morning, trains
arriving at Sao Bento 09.30 took 5 mins to clear platform, later at Campanha
platform 2 (Sao Bento bound) was permanantly wedged all trains arriving and
leaving with only one or two getting on. Made the London Underground rush
hour trains look empty. People only getting away on reversing Aveiro line
trains which had emptied at General Torres. The 10.39 arrival from Lisbon
was in 2 portions each with 8 coaches 5606 and 5607 hauling. Total visitors
estimated at 750.000.
On the Douro the 09.29 boat train had 1422 in charge but the 09.15 was an
0600 unit. the 11.20 ex Campanha also a unit. Sunday 02/09 A bit dire, the
09.15 ex Sao Bento being 2x 0600 with the Douro Azul people on board, no
special. The 06.52 Pocinho-Porto was hauled, unidentified, (so must have
gone up Saturday evening). Nothing else was hauled until the 17.15
Campanha-Pocinho behind 1455. The 14.52 Regua-Porto being 2 car unit 0451!
Monday 03/09 The 09.15 PSB-POC was a unit again this taken to Paredes for
1455 on the morning POC-PC this promptly ran round at Campanha and shunted
across to the bays for the 11.20 to Regua. The 10.39 arrival from Lisbon
arriving behind 2629. Tuesday 04/09 The 09.15 ex Sao Bento was hauled today
the stock arriving behind 5610 ! Today the 06.52 POC-PC arrived behind 14.22
but ran round and went up to Contumil, the 11.20 from Campanha being an 0600
unit, this taken to Regua for the 14.52 return working of the 09.15, the
loco being 1455. The evening 17.15 ex Campanha being 1422 again. On the
electrics the 10.39 arrival ex Lisbon was 5607 and the 18.39 arrival 5608.
(5609 seen at Ermesinde on sand hoppers, 5612 and 5615 also seen on
freights).
Wednesday 05/09
Having decided to go to Viana today the 09.15 ex Porto Sao Bento was
hauled yet again this time 1413 with six coaches. Returning from Viana at
16.40 there was no sign of a loco and stock at Contumil for the 17.15 to
Pocinho (it was programmed for the bay platforms so probably a unit). 1413
had not returned on the 14.52 from Regua, an 0600 unit was just heading down
the underpass for Contumil. Its getting difficult to predict the loco hauled
trains on the Douro and seems to be just luck whether its hauled or a unit.
May be more to do with requirements for the Douro Azul cruise passengers.
Hot and sunny all week 33 deg every afternoon. Cheers. Martin
24th August
Thanks to Sergio Costa for this tip off and a few belated notes from last
weekend on the Douro, where both 1450 & 1455 were out! 1450 on the 0915
turn, 1455 on the 0725. 1413 at Regua for the Historico (although 0186 now
back from repairs at Contumil). 1411 was down at Entron as noted by me.
The other big news is the sale of 3 1400s to new freight operator Takargo,
part of the huge Mota Engil engineering group. This clears up the mystery
grey moose at Poceirão - its 1466, from the Lisboa Carga pool. Text from
newspaper article is below for anyone who cares to try and translate, but
summary is a bit like this (usually disclaimer!)
Takargo has ordered 14 Vossloh 4000 diesel locos, with GM 4200hp power
units, being built at Valençia, Spain. The first is due to be delivered
before October 2008. In the meantime they have acquired 3 1400s and are
training 15 drivers at Entroncamento. The initial services are to be
Bobadela-Setubal as well as Pampilhosa and Lisbon to Elvas, which will be
worked by the 1400s. From October 2008, these will be expanded to Leixões-Lisboa
twice daily each way, daily Lisboa-Madrid, 3 times a week
Lisboa-Barcelona/Irun, daily Guarda and Valença to Vila Real SA (for
forwarding into Spain). It is stated that the containerised traffic is new
to rail and they are trying to compete or take traffic from CP or RENFE. The
logic seems to be to create a land bridge from the Portguese ports into
Spain and France cutting overall transit times. 250 wagons are to be
acquired and the locos/stock will be fitted to work trains throughout in
Spain and Portugal.
12th August
It appears there were no 1400 hauled service trains on the
Douro last weekend (5/6 August). Hopefully this was just a "blip". Any
further sightings would be appreciated...
26th July
It is confirmed that 1422 will replace 1411 on Douro
passenger services from 13th August. Not sure whether 1411 will be stored or
moved to Carga sector.
22nd July - from AD
Douro this weekend:
Sat
1411 0725 PC-Poc, 1114 return
1413 Regua thunderbird
1455 0930 PSB-Regua boat charter, ECS to Pinhão, 1730 Pinhão-PSB charter
Sun
1411 0915 PSB-Poc, 1516 return with 1455 piloting from Regua
1413 at Regua, assumed ECS to Pinhão thence 1730 return charter
1455 0930 PSB-Regua boat charter then pilot 1411 on 1516 ex-Poc
All other services were single 0600s.
1424 & 1435 1700ish Gaia-Regua cement on friday evening, 1424 returned
2200ish, 1435 stabled all weekend at Godim - where the usual Sentinel (1156)
was missing.
21st July - from Mark Widdison
1422 is mentioned by A.D as a CP Carga loco, it was not seen on any
freights in early June. It worked 1247 Regua-Porto Campanha in Multi with
1455 on Saturday 9th June. Also out were 1413+1455 0725 Porto
Campanha-Pocinho as far as Regua. 1413 & 1455 taking it in turns on the
Douro between Saturday 9th June & Tuesday 12th June.
1932/35/43-45 viewed on Beja/Evora turns.
1435 at Lisboa Oriente on weedkiller train on Thursday 7th June. It was back
at Porto by the 11th.
Only 2609 seen on Passenger, all other electric hauled trains in hands of
5600s.
1428 on Estremoz freight trip on Thursday 7th June.
19th July - from AD
Whilst thrashing past Poceirão this afternoon on 1944 to and from Evora,
passed a mystery all over white/pale grey 1400 in the process of being
painted at Poceirão - the contractors yard, southside of the line, west of
the station. No idea of what loco it is, the glass nose end number panel had
been removed. Being distracted by this, I didn't notice how many 1400s were
in the usual line by the station - at least 2, although 1442, 54, 57 were
there a few weeks ago. 1936 had gone however - presumably to Barreiro for
overhaul. 1422 went a while ago and is now CP Carga at Contumil.
Anyone know about the 1400? Stored, intact, non-Argentina locos are 1414,
1419, 1441, 1442, 1445, 1449, 1451, 1453, 1454, 1457, 1464. plus
damaged/stripped 1402/06/52/58/59/60.
Other bits noted were 1428 on the Estramoz trip (normally a 1551?) and
2570 & a 2551 at Pegoes having derailed one of their large bogie timber chip
carrying carrying wagons. 1456(?) was in attendance by early evening with
the ex-Barreiro breakdown train.Yesterday, 1455 did the 0644 ex-Pocinho -
only 1400 noted working.
17th July
Our contacts at CP have confirmed that the knackered ex-CP 1800 (English
Electric) locomotives, last used in 2001, have been sold to Argentina! It is
not clear yet how many are going to be restored to use. Seems crazy to me
considering the condition they are in and the fact that large numbers of
serviceable 1400s are available! A huge sum of money will be need to restore
each one.
It is presumed that 1805 is NOT included in the deal !!!! And that 1801
and 1806 are beyond repair???
Apparently the deal is due to be signed in August.
Note: The Portuguese Traction Group have therefore abandoned their scheme
to purchase and preserve locomotive 1802 and will be writing to all share
holders this week.
24th May
Some superb photos of our recent "Great Spanish Track Bash"
(by Janet Cottrell) can be found at:
The majority of the tour is at
http://jandjcottrell.fotopic.net/c1284725.html
FEVE pictures
http://jandjcottrell.fotopic.net/c1284787.html
Azpeitia Museum
http://jandjcottrell.fotopic.net/c1284803.html
26th April from Andrew Donnelly
Timetable swap doesn't seem to have affected use of 1931s on
the Lusitania... Thursdays and Sundays seem to to be the regular diesel
departures from LSA as witnessed by large amount of noise just gone north
past Expo...
Apparently there is a driver's strike from midnight, which has seen bookings
for tomorrow morning's ICs blocked. It's allegedly a wildcat strike and
could be over-ruled at short notice. Interesting as wanted the 0810
Oriente-Evora tomorrow...
1461 back in traffic after its slight accident with a truck last week.
15th April
After a few trials, former CP NoHAB railcar 0113 entered
public service yesterday. Metropolitano uses it to do the bi-weekly train to
General Alvear, replacing a 2-car loco-hauled rake. Train runs Fridays and
Sundays to Gral. Alvear, returns Saturdays and Mondays. Except for Sunday
evening run, it's an all night trip.
6th April
2602 & 2605 have been working trial freight services off
Pampilhosa; in multiple.
Photo is here (thanks to
Sergio Costa)
Full switch over of 2600s to freight and 5600s to passenger
is scheduled for sometime in June.
30th March
11.26 Porto - Regua, 15.16 return was today worked by Carga
loco 1446 ! Can't get much rarer than that, and on a weekday!
23rd March
Due to a problem with 0450 units it appears that most days
there are two 1400 hauled diagrams on the Douro with 07.26, 11.26 and 17.26
from Porto Campanha hauled on most days. Not sure how long it will last
though..
If there is anyone with a Norbrass Engish
Electric Class 1800 model (in orange) to sell, please contact
Peter Malone.
11th March
Info from
Mark Minnett;
Saturday
10th: 1455 worked 11.26 Porto-Regua, 1716 Regua-Porto. 1413 worked the
Almond blossum special.
Sunday
(Today): 1413 worked 07.26 Porto-Pocinho, should return 11.33
Pocinho-Porto then work the 17.26 to Regua.
7th March
1455 worked 17.26 Porto - Pocinho tonight.
6th March
1413 worked 11.26 Porto - Regua, 17.16 Regua - Porto.
17th February
Loco 1947 is back in passenger service and should be on the
Castelo Branco - Covilha turns for the coming week.
15th February
CP are again running their special "Almond" trains on
Saturdays in March. These trains are usually hauled by a 1400 locomotive.
Departure is from Porto Sao Bento at 07.45. On arrival in Pocinho there is a
long tour round this fascinating area with lunch. The special train returns
from Pocinho at 18.05. Tickets can be pre-booked at either Porto station for
33 euros.
It also appears that one of the "class 50" 1801 series
locomotives may have a future, but sadly not operational. As the council at
Loule on the Algarve have asked CP for one of the locos to be plinthed in
the town! No idea which one will be chosen but 1801 would be the obvious
choice.
7th February - from Martin Summerscales
I was in Porto over the weekend just a lightning visit
via Ryanair out Fri night back Monday morning (Tuesdays flight full).
Noticed notes on website re 17.16 Regua-Porto being
hauled, 09.15 ex Porto SB was an 0600 unit decided to go anyway and
passed 1411 Porto bound on the 06.44 ex Pocinho (presumably it went up
on the 17.26 from Campanha Friday night) Bailed at Parades for 2 hours
and 1411 arrived back with the 11.26 ex Campanha to Regua. I returned to
Porto on the 15.16 from Regua (the 09.15 0600), 1411 was parked in the
non platform road. I was dining with friends both nights in Porto so
could not view the 17.16 ex Regua but 1411 was on stock in Contumil yard
Sunday Morning at 11.30. 1413 left on the 17.26 Campanha - Regua
Saturday night. It returned with the 06.44 ex Pocinho Sunday morning and
then worked the 11.26 to Regua again. I returned to Porto on the 13.16
ex Regua though I did find time to call in at Campanha at 17.00 to view
the 17.26 (1411 from Contumil) on this occasion 1413 had returned from
Regua on the 15.16 and was just running round the stock before heading
up to Contumil. Presumably 1411 would return Monday morning.
There were 3 0450 units up the Douro on Caide - Marco/Regua
shuttles which suggests there may be a shortage of 0600 units. This may
be only a temporary diagram but is an improvement on the 09.15 round
trip.
1st February
Sérgio Costa's on-line magazine
celebrating the 40th Anniversary of the 1400 locos can be found here:
www.decomboio.no.sapo.pt
From John Wilson
Around the PTG tour I spent a few days on the Evora/Beja
circuit with 1930s.
I believe the diagrams are as follows:
Day 1:
07.51 Oriente - Evora
13.50 Evora - Oriente
17.51 Oriente - Evora
Day 2:
06.50 Evora - Oriente
09.21 Oriente - Beja
19.26 Beja - Oriente
Day 3:
Spare Lisboa SA (opportunity to swap a loco)
18.51 Oriente - Beja
Day 4:
08.26 Beja - Oriente
13.51 Oriente - Evora
18.48 Evora - Oriente works day 1.
On Monday evening 1940 worked the Lusitania out of Lisboa SA. The loco was
smoking out of the side and roof grills, although the driver wasn't bothered
by this.
Locos seen on these turns were 1932/38/40/42/44 although 1938 failed on
the Friday as already reported.
31st January
From Hugo
1938 caught fire on Friday when heading the 596/7. Fire
services attended to it in Campolide. I don't know in what condition it
remained.
From Andrew Donnelly
And a bit late, but still of note, 1458 seems to have had an altercation
with 1909 in December and is now in Barreiro for stripping of parts. No idea
if 1422/42/57 from store at Poceirão have been reactivated as cover.
For the second day running, the 1716 Regua-Porto SB has been hauled, 1411
yesterday and 1413 today. 1413 being shunt released by 1411 just a little
while ago, with the pair topping n tailing the stock up to Contumil.
Not clear as to what the diagram for this is, as the 1716 is usually formed
of a unit ex-Caide. Would speculate that works the 0915 ex-PSB to Pocinho
then back to Regua, where turn swaps for a unit with the 1400 dropping back
a turn, or the 1115 ex-PSB to Regua, again with a unit stepping up a turn to
cover the 1516 ex-Regua.
Info from Alex Morais on the way home.
30th January
Work has commenced on a new 3.8 km branch line from Coina to Siderurgia Nacional. The line is due to open in April 2008
and already PTG plan to visit the line as part of the Annual Enthusiast
Events in October next year.
The funicular at Viana do Castelo, which has been closed for
about 5 years for refurbishment, was reopened for testing today and is due
to reopen to the public in about one months time.
28th January
PTG's "English Electric 40th" tour was operated as follows:
1411 & 1408 Porto - Valenca - Porto
2568 Porto - Pampilhosa
1431 Pampilhosa - Vilar Formoso - Pampilhosa
2568 Pampilhosa - Porto
19th January - from AD
Confirmed that 1941 will replace 1932 on the boat to
Argentina, eventually.
1941 was the last Alsthom to get an overhaul for some considerable time in
2004, but then burst its camshaft within a few months and has been dumped at
Entron for over 2 years. 1947 is back at Entron after overhaul, prior to
re-enterting CP service.
Fleet status;
CP IC; 1932, 35, 38, 40, 42, 43, 44, 45, 47
Barreiro; Overhaul for Argentina 1931. Pending 1933. CP Overhaul 1939.
Stored; 1934,41,46 Ent, 1936 Poc, 1937 Bar
1938 & 1945 are due overhaul this year, lets see if it happens...
14th January - update from Mark Minnett
On return from Pocinho
passed 13.15 Porto - Pocinho with 1408 !
This is the first
"English" moose to work a passenger train (in Portugal at least!) for
some time.
14th January
After disappointment of no locos out on the Douro yesterday
(Sat). "Rare" 1413 has worked the 09.15 turn today. Only "rare" because the
train is almost always 1411 or 1455. 1411 is at Braga with an exhibition
train.
The following stock is now on its way to Argentina from
Setubal docks:
EMU's 2054, 60, 63, 69, 70, 71, 85, 87, 88, 89, (damaged 2090 will
presumably remain behind)
Carel et Fouché 88-40 011 and 012
"Furgões" 92-69 005 and 016
NoHAB's 0110, 0113 and 0114
English Electric 1423
Brissoneau et Lotz 1205, 1212, 1217, 1218, 1221 and 1223
Thanks to Carlos Perez Darnaud for this list.
12th January - from AD
One of the driving cars from a 2051/2081 EMU was dropped from 8 metres when
being loaded at Setubal docks... . It is allegedly to be repaired.

11th January
Not confirmed...but it seems that loco 1932 will now remain with CP and loco
1947 exported to Argentina in its place.
30th December
All three locos out on Douro passenger trains
today:
1411 06.44 Pocinho - Porto
1455 09.15 Porto - Pocinho and return
1413 18.50 Porto - Regua
29th December - from AD
For the 'eleventeenth' time, CP Longo Curso are to try and implement a new
and much improved Alfa/IC timetable, principally based around the
Lisboa-Porto mainline. This has been proposed and dropped several times
since 2005 as a result of on-going works on the mainline. In theory, March
10th 2007 is the date for the change now. Lets hope so! It can be assumed
that the exchange of class 2601s/21s and 14x 5600s between Carga and IC
Longo Curso will happen at this time. Some 2601s are expected to stay with
IC apparently, not sure how many.
Proposed are;
17/18 Lisboa-Porto Alfas and ICs (the later timed at 190kmh) with 5 LSA-PCA
Alfas (timed at 2h30 from Oriente) 4 LSA-Braga Alfas (in 3h10) 7 LSA-Porto
ICs (in 3h00) with 1 extended to Guimarães (omitting stops at Pampilhosa,
Alfarelos, Caxarias & Fatima) 2 Porto-Faro Alfas (in 5h40) 3 LSA-Guarda ICs
(gaining 10mins on current times as call at stops omitted from Porto ICs) 3
LSA-Covilhã ICs (new mid-day departures, times reduced by 15m) 3 LOR-Faro
ICs
No longer running are the Comboio Azul & LOR-Faro Alfa. Evora/Beja remain
the same.
One would assume that a recast of the connecting Regional timetables
would also occur, but as we know, joined up thinking is not the best at
present...
13th December
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13th December - from AD
Some bits of loco news.
The ex-works Alsthom I noted last week on the Evora IC was not 1947 - same
loco, same train on monday - and its 'Argentinian' 1932! Short term cover
whilst 1947 is overhauled, apparently. 1939 is also at/on way to Barreiro
for overhaul and will be followed by 1945 next year. 1938 also coming up to
km limit.
2601 & 2602 are the next 26s being fitted with MW equipment whilst 2628 is
in Entron for overhaul, presumably to emerge as a Carga loco. Not all the
26s are due to go to Carga, certainly not yet, given lack of timetable
change on the Linha do Norte. 5612 has been overhauled, replaced by 5618,
leaving just 5615-17 and 5630 requiring overhaul. 5602 is back in traffic
whilst 2501/02/07/14 are active, with 2504 being repaired. There are no
plans for further 2501 or 2551 overhauls.
12th December
A draft copy of the new PTG Tours 2007 brochure
is now available (3mb pdf) to download.
Click here or on the image in the left hand border.
10th December
Please note that the PTG Tours "English Electric
40th" tour IS running next month but with the following changes:
1) Trip on Vouga lines will now be on service
train DMUs rather than a chartered DMU. We will still have a coach visit to
the museum at Macinhata.
2) Trip to Valenca will still feature 2 x
1400 locomotive from the Carga sector although CP can not guarantee that
these will be 1404 & 1408.
3) Trip to Vilar Formosa will be as follows:
Porto - Pampilhosa - Porto
: 1 x 2501 or 2551 loco
Pampilhosa - Vilar Formoso
- Pampilhosa : 1 x 1400 loco from Carga sector
These changes have been bought about by the
fact that we only have 35 people booked on the trip.
28th November
A short Clip about Sernada do Vouga:
27th November
Allan 0304 has moved from store at Figueira da Foz to Guifões for
restoration to original condition and return to service - presumably as part
of museum fleet. Info from Transportes XXI.
26th November
From Owen Brison via David
Clough
Portugal has seen further heavy rain recently (possibly helping Mr
Donnelly's aquifers!)
According to the Público, the lines are, or have been, cut in the following
places today:
Linha da Beira Baixa cut between Vila Velha de Rodão and Castelo Branco.
Also a freight derailment near Tancos - no injuries. I saw on TV a 56
(leading a 1550) in the ballast somewhere, so maybe that was it.
Linha de Vendas Novas cut near Lavre. Linha do Douro cut between Pinhão and
Régua.
Linha do
Oeste: Bombarral station with water aboveplatform level (and shown on TV).
Linha do Norte. Cut again where it was a few weeks ago,between Fátima and
Caixarias, though the latest there is that it has re-opened for single line
working. Also cut between Santana and Cartaxo and between Ovar and
Estarreja.
Linha do
Minho cut between Tamel and Barcelos.
13th November
Loco 1971 has been badly damaged after hitting a
rock fall near Vesuvio (between Pocinho and Tua). The loco was working the
daily cement train on 9th November.
6th November - from AD
Judging by amount of rain currently being deposited on
Lisbon, we can expect more problems tonight and tomorrow...
Forgot to post this before, but 1455 worked the 1126
PC-Regua and 1716 return today... No idea why, lack of 0600s perhaps. Info
from Alex Morais.
From Hugo:
Santa Clara - Saboia south points had their balast
swept away by the water... Setubal CTC was quite frantic today...
5th November - from AD
First day of Evora ICs today, with 1935 working the
inaugural departure at 0650 and 1944 the first arrival with the 0751 from
Oriente. 1935 seemed to work down yesterday in the path of the 1751
departure from Oriente to get loco and stock in position. Seen rumbling over
the bridge at 18h00.
Major floods yesterday with the Linha de Norte cut
north of Fatima station. Line closed until tomorrow at least, with single
line working expected for at least a week. As result, its buses Entron to
Pombal, adding about 90mins to journey time, based on at least one
experience today. Also, 5603 was taken off the Sud at Entron with 1558
working forwards via the Beira Baixa, 30' odd late away.
Also, 1411 is still Lisboa SA pilot - 1427 seems
finally have moved...!
26th October - from Darren Walker
Proposed new Alentejo IC service from 5th
November:
IC690 IC592 IC694 IC696 IC594
Lisboa Oriente
07:51 09:21 13:51 17:51 18:51
Pinhal Novo 08:39 10:09 14:39 18:39 19:39
Vendas Novas 09:04 10:34 15:07 19:04 20:06
Casa Branca 09:30 10:57 15:30 19:30 20:32
Evora 09:50 15:50 19:50
Vila Nova da B 11:13 20:48
Cuba 11:26 21:01
Beja 11:37 21:12
IC598 IC590 IC692 IC698 IC596
Beja 08:26 19:26
Cuba 08:37 19:37
Vila Nova da B 08:50 19:50
Evora 06:50 13:50 18:48
Casa Branca 07:08 09:06 14:08 19:06 20:06
Vendas Novas 07:32 09:32 14:32 19:32 20:32
Pinhal Novo 07:58 09:58 14:58 2